Hello, APUSHers:
Here's tonight's HW:
1. Review the text of the Declaration of Independence. CLICK HERE for the full text. CLICK HERE for an abridged version.
2. Based on what we discussed in class, and what you've learned about the causes of the American Revolution...
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
Please post your answers here. Thanks!
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Mr. T
"On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?"
The Declaration of Independence justifies the colonists' demand for political independence very clearly and reasonably. They state all their complaints and reasons for why they should be independent. They do not state absurd reasons for wanting political independence. They state political, social and economic reasons for their independence. The Declaration of Independence's persuasiveness can vary on who's reading it. On the colonists' persepective, it is very persuasive and reasonable. However on the British perspective, it's absurd and such reasons should not bring such independence. However to me, it's very persuasive in that they are reasonable and states true and identifiable reasons. Even if I was a British, I'd still be persuaded by this document.
Min Kang.
The document justifies the colonist demanding for political freedom when it says all the reasons why they want it about the king. I think that the colonist are right when they say they want to be free becuase it has listed all the Kings wrong doings, and unfair treatments. I find this document persuasive because i dont see the British point of view; if i saw the British point of view my opinion might have been different. But because i dont see there point of view, i agree with the colonist.
- Adrian Chisholm
"On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?"
I agree with what Min said about how the declaration of independence reasonably justifies the colonists demand for independence. The declaration of indpendence included a clear list of grievances against the king. The complaints identified the things that the king has done to America, & cearly states that the colonists are fighting to be free & independent states. As Min said, the declaration of independence's persuassiveness can vary, depending on : if the British are reading it, or the Americas. All complaints/statements written are true facts, so the Americas would definitely think its persuassive. However, Britain would think the listed complaints are completely unreasonable. The reasoons given in the D.O.I can be identified, so the British cannot prove any of the statements in the d.o.i to be false/incorrect. I think the declaration of independence is persuassive, because it states various reasonable, identifiable reasons on why independence should be declared.
the decleration of independence does justifiy the colonist because it clearly states several wrongs that were made by the king. they were forced to follow rules by the king that he had made just at random at his own will with out any one elses consent. the declaration was full of disapprovals towards the king and how they believed what he was doing was wrong.
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
The declaration of independence was exactly what the colonies wanted. The declaration was clear and explained that they wanted independence form their mother country. They state why they should be independent and how the king has acted and all of the taxes and complaints they have. I agree with Jenna on that the complaints and statements hat they made were true and persuasive which helped them to get their independence.
-Robin
I agree with what Robin and Jenna said. The dociments justifies the colonists' political freedom and rights. In the Declaration of Independence, the colonists have their political freedom and rights, but in the British's point of view, the Declaration of Independence is a peice of paper with just words that sounds like whining from the colonists.
-Opal Lim
"on what grounds does the document justify the colonists demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?" I think the Declaration of Independence justifies the colonists demand for political independence because the colnists dont want England to be ruling over them, they want to be their own people, they dont want to be taxed for items that dont need tax, the colonists just want to be independent, and they dont want to follow rules made by the king. -Chris Cinturati
On what grounds does the documnt justify the colonists demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
I agree with Robin because the Declaration of Independence was what the colonists wanted. The Declaration of Independence was written by Thomas Jefferson stating that America was no longer with England. It also said the bad things that the king did so he couldn't rule the Americans anymore.
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
the DOI justifies he colonists demand on political, idelogical, and econimical reasons. inthe DOI thecolonist stated hge reasons why they waned independence andthey listed king george's grievances. i find these reasons persuasive because they say why they want independence. i agree with jenna, that britain probab;ly saw this as whining.
I agree with what Donna said that the colonists used examples that left a bug impact. In addition, the Declaration of Independence also explained how England's government is ignoring everyone's natural rights that they were born with. Also, they explain that King George is not doning anything for the colonies' benefit, but only for England's benefit, which can become very harmful to the colonies. Finally, like Donna and Jenna I agree that England saw this as whiny, but also probably thought it was ridiculous since England felt so superior to the colonies that they probably laughed thinking about the colonies trying to make it on their own.
-Danielle Cantatore
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The Declaration of Independence justifies that colonists demand for political independenec pretty well. They start off by saying that all men are created equal, and that the governments job is to amke sure this equality is achieved. They also state that ift he government begins to take away rights in the process fo this, the people have a right totry to replace the government. This sounds pretty reasonable to me. Then they state that the government has been pretty unfair to them and they should be able to get a new government. They state that the British cut off their trade with the world, tax them without consent, which is all true. I find their arguement presuassive because fo this. (It also says that the British destroyed the lives of many of them, which is kind of an opinion, but it still seems reasonable for them to think that).
Min commented that even if he were British this would presuade him. I disagree with him. There are two sides to every story. I agree with Opal Lim that the colonists probably just sounded whiny to the British. If i was British, i would think they were just complaining, and that Britain HAD to take away their trade to punish them. Also, i would probably feel that it was necessary to tax them because, as Britain, i would have payed for their land and other things, and the least they could do is pay a little back.
So, although (to me) the document does justify their reasons, the British would probably disagree.
I agree with both Jenna and Min that the declaration of independence justifies the colonists demand for indpendence from britain was clear and reasonable. In the DOI, it states the lists of grievances [complaints] they had toward king george. One complaint was that how the King lost his right to rule America because his rule was "corrupt." The DOI aso states political, social and economic reasons why colonies wanted indpendence from britain. All the statements made in DOI were based upon facts and not opinions which made it more persuasive for the colonies to want freedom. But from the british side, i agree what jenna said about britain not having facts to prove any of their statements. I think the DOI was very persuasive since it stated actual statements that can be supported by facts on why colonies should gain independence from britain. I was certainly persuade to go into the colonies side when they justified their independence in the DOI.
Iagree with Monica when she says that the complaints towards the king were not opinions they were facts.I feel that the colonists have a right to break up with the mother country and have political independance which is very clear and understandable.
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
I agree with Gabby and I also disagree with min about how he was saying that if he was a British he would be persuaded too. I think that the British will have their own opinions. The document justify the colonists' demand for political independence because it voices why they wanted to seperate from Great Britain. I found those reasons persuasive because it included many true examples of how King George III was ruling over them with dictatorial power, such as taking away their charters and taxing without the colonists' consent.
The Declaration of Independence justifies the colonists demand for independence pretty clearly. They state economical, social, and economic reason for there independence, such as how they are losing money because they are being taxed on goods. The colonists let the message out saying that they want to be "free" and that they want to stand on there own two feet and live there life. The colonies wanted this and there just frighting for there rights.I think this document is persuassive, because it states reasonable and identifiable reasons on why the colonists want independence.
"On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?"
I also agree with Jenna and Min, as well as Monica. The Declaration of Independence was a document that clearly addressed the colonists' demand for independence. It contained arguments with supporting details, stating their need for independence and why they are choosing to break free from the mother country. There were many grievances, or complaints, that the colonists had with King George's ruling. One complaint that they had was the ridiculous taxes and laws they had to pay/follow. I also agree with Adrian, this document is in the colonists point of view, and it's very persuasive. If I were to hear the British point of view, my opinion just like Adrian's, might also change.
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
I agree with Min's arguments. All the Declartation of Independece was, was a letter to King George stating that we should have the same rights as English citizens of Britan. As it is stated in the Magna Carta. The Declaration though is a little over publisized. In todays world it is a very small piece of paper stating that we became a nation about 232 years ago. It has very little interest now in todays political society from my point of view. My father who is an A.P. at an American History Highschool would have a different opinion I bet.
Though no doubt about it, it is a very persuasive argument even to this day. Breaking away from the most powerful government in the world and saying "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" thats pretty powerful.
In conclusion the D.O.I. justifies the colonists demand for political independence by stating basic rights which the British were abusing and such caused conflict. It also for any country would be a very persuasive reason to declare independece.
-Avi Solkoff
I agree with Avi. The colonists were in fact justified in declaring idependence because they weren't being treated with the same respect and equality as english citizens actually IN England. Britain was given enough chances to lighten up on the colonies but instead King George III just passed more acts which further increased the colonists' I- want- independence mentality and at the same time strengthened their unity as a nation.
- Maggie Todaro
I agree with Jenna and Min, the Declaration of Independence is a very persuasive document. From what I know, I believe that the colonists were justify in writing the Declaration of Independence to break away from england because england got to the point were they were protecting america more than they needed to, and they were applying rules that were not fair to the colonists, such as the closing of all of the ports in the colonies. Overall, the colonists were justidy in demand for political independence.
-Marc
I agree with Maggie, the colonists were justified in declaring idependence because they weren't being treated with the same respect and equality. The colonists did not agree with what King George was doing, he just kept passing more acts on them. Also, the decleration of independce was clearly stating the colonist' demand for independence.
I also agree with Angelina, because this was written from the colonists point of view, and is very persuasive, if i were to read something from the British, my opinion might change a little.
-Lauren
I agree with what Min said about how the colonists stated in a civilized way the problems they had with the king and his government. Of course, the colonists were very happy with the Declaration of Idependence, but the British most likely saw it in a different way. The British probably saw it and thought they were being unreasonable and rude about it. So even though there were probably two very different perspectives, i would have to agree with the colonists. Maybe it is because right now I am a part of the independent nation and I know how it has helped the nation that I live in now. If I were a British, I might have had the opposing opinion.
-Rosemarie
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
The Declaration of Independence explains what the colonies want; "freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". This document states how the king isn't needed for the colonies. This justifies the colonists' demand for political independence is shown. This article is persuasive [agreeing with Min, Adrian, Jenna, Robin, Opal, Donna, Danielle, and more] depending on the point of view. If I was in the colonists, I'll believe this is persuasive and it well make me have strong feelings for freedom [the purpose of the document] and would participant in the rebellions and support independence. If I was a loyalist, it'll believe that the colonist are taking the taxations acts the wrong way. The british are only taxing because they have no money because tey used it will helping the colonies. I would think the colonies are thinking to much and is taking a minor issue to a major issue.
-Michelle x
Sophia Chronopoulos 11/17/94
Homework
On what grounds does the document justify the colonists' demand for political independence? Do you find these reasons persuasive?
I agree wih Marc's comment. The Decclaration of Independence justifies the colonists' demand for political independence for many reasons. For example, the document states that all men are created equal. This is a big argument that the colonists' have. This statement proves all the laws the king made and all the taxes put on the colonists were unfair treatment. The statement would justify the colonists' demand for independence because it gives them a reason to separate from England. It proves that the laws being put on the colonies were wrong because the British weren't being taxed.
I agree with Gabby, and believe that colonists were justified in declaring independence fom England. The Parliament violated the constitution, and as the Englih law states, citizens of a country have the right to overthrow the King/Queen if they do not oblige laws.
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